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You've reached the voice mail box for the angel Balthazar. Sorry I missed your call!
Well... actually, that depends who you are. I may have deliberately missed your call, in which case I won't get back to you unless you have a really good reason I should make the attempt. So, I advise you to make a list of potential bribes when you leave your message. If I want to talk to you, I won't need them.
...Beep.
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Date: 2019-09-29 01:42 am (UTC)Balthazar is neither pedantic nor much of an intellectual, but he does enjoy a bit of magic now and then. The prospect of a project is not unpleasant.
"Oh, vampires can be unpleasant enough where I'm from, but they're no danger to an angel. None of the monster-types are, and neither are most of the demons. Witchcraft done very cleverly can harm us, but short of a white-eyed demon or a Knight of Hell, we're quite durable."
The prim commentary coupled with the blush just makes Balthazar laugh. "No, no, I quite like it. I'd best keep you well away from Castiel; he does that sort of thing, too. Ninety percent of the time he's all seriousness and purity, and then he'll drop a sass bomb when you least expect it."
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Date: 2019-09-30 02:19 am (UTC)It does beg the question if the magic of angels from different universes is compatible at all, but they can deal with that as they go. If the whole thing turns out to be a bust, at least Aziraphale tried, and he would have spent the time in good company.
"A white-eyed demon?" he repeats curiously. "Crowley had to answer to a Duke of Hell on occasion." His nose wrinkles as he remembers finally meeting Hastur. What an unsavory fellow. Aziraphale almost feels sorry for him.
Aziraphale's mouth quirks into a smile. "It sounds as though we have a bit in common," he remarks, "Maybe Castiel needs that sort of outlet on occasion. Heaven's work culture can be stifling."
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Date: 2019-09-30 02:58 pm (UTC)Either way, it sounds like a fun project, if one with a potential for backlash. Count Balthazar in.
"They have different eye colors, where I come from," he says with a grimace. "Depending on power level, age, and details of alignment. There are some exceptions, but crossroads demons tend to have red eyes. Most of the rank and file aside from that are black-eyed. A bit more powerful, a lot more violent. The Knights of Hell had black eyes, too; they're all accounted for except one. The Princes of Hell have yellow eyes. They're reported dead. There've only been a few white-eyed demons. One was Alistair, Hell's torturer and inquisitor. The other I know of was Lilith, and she was the first. Ever."
"I did mention they're just damaged human souls where I come from? Even Lilith. The stories about Adam having a first wife have some truth to them. I'm not clear on whether our Lucifer tempted her or abducted her, or even if she went right to him, but whatever the case, she was unquestionably the most vicious creature in Hell. Gone now, but I saw her on the battlefield once, thousands of years ago." He shudders.
"Tell you what, your Crowley is a breath of fresh air after you've seen something like that. I hope you never see one of our demons."
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Date: 2019-09-30 05:55 pm (UTC)As for pronouns, he shrugs a little, unconcerned. "My god prefers those pronouns, which is why I use them. Although I suppose She doesn't have too strong of a preference, or she would have corrected the humans a long time ago."
Aziraphale listens with keen interest to the demonology of Balthazar's world. "Yes, you told me about the damaged human souls. We don't have a Lilith that I'm aware of, or if there is a demon named Lilith, she hasn't done much of note. We have the same stories about her being Adam's first wife, but they're untrue. It was always Adam and Eve."
He would know; he was there from the beginning.
Mention of Crowley brings an automatic smile to his face. "He's a breath of fresh air compared to the demons on my world, as well. There's no correlation between eye color and rank; Hastur has black eyes and is a duke, but Beelzebub is higher ranking than him and has completely normal eyes. Crowley has yellow eyes, which you might not have noticed behind his glasses. They're serpent eyes, and I'm sure you can guess why, but they aren't off-putting at all like other demons. In fact, I daresay there's nothing off-putting about him at all, unless he's genuinely trying to scare a human."
He lets out a soft, involuntary sigh without meaning to while he thinks about Crowley's appearance. No, not off-putting at all. Quite the opposite, in fact.
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Date: 2019-10-02 01:16 am (UTC)"You know, no one's seen our Metatron since God left," he begins thoughtfully, but gets distracted by Aziraphale's change in expression when he speaks of Crowley. His eyebrows go up, and he listens, bemused and smiling faintly.
"You're absolutely smitten. You do know that, don't you?" It's a blunt way to point out the truth, but maybe the way Balthazar's smiling--friendly, rather than trolling--will help.
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Date: 2019-10-02 02:21 pm (UTC)He tilts his head curiously at yet another difference between their worlds. "No? Well, I suppose if God left, then Metatron wouldn't have much to do." But where would he go off to? Furthermore, where would God go off to?
Further speculation will have to wait, because Balthazar's commentary quite effectively shuts him down.
"...smitten?"
He stares at the other angel with wide eyes as if he's been caught out in a deep, dark secret. He smiles nervously, cheeks coloring in embarrassment as his gaze darts around the room, his hands twisting at one another. "My dear boy, you misinterpret my words. Crowley is -- that is, he's a dear friend and I care for him deeply, but we're not -- I'm not --" He breathes deep and shudders on the exhale. "I'm not meant to feel such things."
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Date: 2019-10-06 02:15 pm (UTC)And yet, somehow he's not really Fallen or Corrupted. What's that say about his universe?
Nothing nearly so interesting as the look in the other angel's eyes and the sudden blush at he repeats the word 'smitten'. Oh, goodness. He really didn't know. Or maybe he didn't want to know. Balthazar's expression softens, eyes warm and bright; there's some amusement there, because he can't help but think this is adorable, but he's not going to deliberately tease too hard.
"Yes you are. Love is for everyone. I don't care what the other angels have told you; it's as much for us as anything in Creation can be."
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Date: 2019-10-06 10:59 pm (UTC)Besides, he has quite a different subject on his mind now.
"I know that," he says, a touch crossly, his eyebrows knitting together as he continues to fret. Oh, oh, dear. Balthazar is not the first person to comment (or make assumptions) on his feelings for Crowley, but those have been easy enough to brush aside. Even Toby, who is way too invested in Aziraphale and Crowley's personal affairs. But this is another angel -- another angel who is currently romantically (and sexually, can't forget that) with a fallen angel. It is so much more difficult to ignore his own muddled feelings when speaking to Balthazar.
"I'm not saying this because of Heaven's Doctrine, or because Crowley's a demon, or whatever else." He glances at Balthazar anxiously. "I know you said you didn't need a drink -- or more of a drink, rather -- but I do, if I'm going to discuss this with you. Will you excuse me a moment?"
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Date: 2019-10-08 02:46 am (UTC)"Of course," he says, comparatively gently. "Believe it or not I'm not just trying to make you uncomfortable, but--well, even we have limits to the time we get on Earth."
He nods and gestures as if to give his permission for Aziraphale to go get whatever he needs to drink. He'll stay where he is unless told otherwise, looking around with hands in his jacket pockets.
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Date: 2019-10-08 01:38 pm (UTC)He looks over the wines, thinks to himself a polite version of 'screw it' and heads back up, grabbing a bottle of Crown Royal whiskey and a pair of tumblers. He pours himself a glass, neat, and leaves the other empty but obviously there should Balthazar change his mind.
He takes a sip, clears his throat of the burn, and only then looks up at Balthazar again. "As I've already explained to you, angels on this world do not inhabit human vessels. These bodies are made specifically for us, and they are sexless, unless we wish to make an Effort. Well... I have made an Effort at various times, but only to blend in with humanity. Public bathing was popular for a time, and certain cuts of trousers don't fall properly unless you -- well, anyway. Only once, I've made an Effort because... because. There was a human who fancied me, and I... I thought perhaps I fancied him, so I thought, well, why not?"
He drops his gaze, his voice laced with disappointment and regret as he continues. "He kissed me and... no. No, it was all wrong. I realized that I had made a terrible mistake. That... that sort of love wasn't for me. Which is fine! Works out perfectly as I probably shouldn't have been doing it in the first place."
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Date: 2019-10-08 02:03 pm (UTC)He's a troll, he admits it. He's a well-meaning troll, for the most part, especially where his friends are concerned, but he's definitely not above making them uncomfortable.
Actually, it makes him think about Cas a little bit while Aziraphale's gone. Maybe he hasn't approached him quite right. It drives him quite mad that Castiel has fallen so dearly in love with the Winchesters--particularly how he's attached to the ruder and more obnoxious of the two--although at the same time, it's nice to see him coming out of himself, changing. Everything is changing. Maybe all the changes aren't for the worse. There's no way to know if Balthazar himself isn't willing to try a slightly altered approach.
He finds a seat when Aziraphale comes back, and something in his body language has shifted. He's quieter, more serious, trying his very best to listen without teasing.
The comment about the cut of trousers not fitting properly almost ruins his composure--he understands, he does, but that's legit funny--but after a cough of amusement he recovers. And he's glad he did.
"Aziraphale," he breathes. "You know, that was terribly brave of you, to try it out, not even knowing whether you'd like it or not. I mean, I wasn't sure at first whether I'd enjoy it, either, but--well, obviously I took to sex like a fish to water. Probably a bit too fond of it, if I'm honest with myself."
"In any case, what I really want is for you to make your own decision, regardless of what you think the will of Heaven might be. As long as you're really doing that, I've no quarrel. But I'm reasonably sure you don't have to want sex to love someone, or even to be in love with someone."
It makes sense, really, for a being with no drive to reproduce to have less interest in intercourse, but he's not going to say that, because he doesn't want to feed into Aziraphale's thinking that romance and sex aren't options. They're always options! Just not options he chooses.
"It's just, the way you look when you talk about him, and the way he acts around you--look, it really reads like a couple courting romantically, and it's wonderful to watch. There's a shortage of sweet things like that in the world."
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Date: 2019-10-08 09:02 pm (UTC)"It wasn't brave," he says with a sigh as he pulls out the chair behind his counter and sinks into it. "It was reckless. Oscar was brilliant and charming and witty, but he was human. I can only imagine what Gabriel would have said had he caught me doing that with my Heaven-issued vessel." He finishes off his glass with a gloomy expression on his face. Honestly, what had he been thinking? That clever conversation would translate into physical attraction? He was desperate, is what he was. Crowley was off sulking or sleeping because Aziraphale wouldn't give him holy water, and Aziraphale was so lonely. He had no one to talk to who really understood him. Oscar came close, but...
He reaches for the bottle of whiskey and pours himself another glass. "I realize that over six thousand years of indoctrination can cloud one's judgement, but I've given this a lot of thought over the years. Romance -- with or without sex -- simply isn't for me." And hoping that will be the end of it, he brings the tumbler up to this lips --
Wait. "What do you mean the way he acts around me?" He sets the glass back down and blinks at Balthazar in confusion.
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Date: 2019-10-11 12:12 pm (UTC)"Oscar," he repeats, needing a momentary digression from the serious topic. "If you tell me you've snogged Oscar Wilde I'm going to be moderately jealous, even though it didn't work out."
But okay, he doesn't have angelic ADD, he can focus again, knitting his fingers together and laying them across his knees. "As long as you make that decision out of freedom and not fear, I suppose I can't object. You really are sweet together, though. I'm sure even--"
The question makes him break off and tilt his head quizzically. "Admittedly, I don't know him as well as I know you. I've only talked to him with you around, but he's quite proprietary. In a good way, I mean. The way humans are when they're sweet on someone. Sort of a this person is mine attitude?"
He nods up at the giant teddy bear on display nearby. "And of course there's that. He suggested it, I'm sure he's aware that winning toys for their sweethearts is something humans do at fairs and the like. Lucifer and I did the same thing, actually. There's a plush manatee sitting on a shelf somewhere in Hell; take that mental image and run with it. Mine is a rainbow plush snake."
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Date: 2019-10-11 02:28 pm (UTC)That coyness falls away when the subject shifts to Crowley's behavior, replaced with genuine innocence as if he's learning about all this for the very first time. "Oh, but... but that's just Crowley being Crowley. He always acts like that." Sort of. The demon is a bit more open with his affection now that Heaven and Hell can't do anything about it. But it's a platonic affection, right? Right.
There's another nose wrinkle at the mention of Lucifer, perhaps in combination with the plush snake. "Well, that's... very cute that you exchanged stuffed animals, but that's not limited to sweethearts. This isn't the first time Crowley's gotten me something. Food, usually, or a nice bottle of wine. He got me chocolates when I first opened my shop, and of course there's the time he rescued my books when those dreadful Nazis double-crossed me. And I've taken him out for meals plenty of times. I assure you, it's quite normal behavior for us."
He sits there, perfectly content in his reasoning, like he has absolutely no clue what that sounds like to anyone else.
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Date: 2019-10-12 03:17 pm (UTC)Meanwhile, he's not sure how Aziraphale can have lived amongst humans so long, have watched their cultures grow and establish little details like this, and still be so dense about his demon picking them up and turning them on him. He curls his tongue against the roof of his mouth to keep from calling the other angel something untoward, albeit affectionate, that might ruin the calm nature of this conversation. He has to take a breath and rub his temples, collecting words.
"That's Crowley being Crowley towards you. Have you known him to ply anyone else with chocolates and wine? Do you take people out for meals the way you go out with him? Aziraphale, darling, I'm not saying this couldn't be purely platonic, but it's a spot-on reflection of human dating behavior. Which you've apparently been doing for, what, millennia?"
"Have you considered perhaps discussing this with Crowley? I don't know what goes on in his head, but it's possible you don't entirely, either, and whether you mean to be lovers or best friends you should be on the same page."
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Date: 2019-10-20 09:00 pm (UTC)Crowley once asked him how someone as clever as he is could be so stupid, and though it was said in a fit of pique, the demon wasn't all that far off the mark. The way the angel achieves it is through a denial so intense that Freud could have written an entire series of books about it. Despite this, there is a genuine flash of panic in his eyes when Balthazar brings up the idea of talking to Crowley about things, and he shakes his head rapidly at the suggestion.
"Why on Earth would I -- what is there to discuss with him? Crowley, old chap, it appears that Balthazar thinks you're courting me? Because I can assure you, if he had any sort of feelings for me in that regard, he would have told me. He was the one who initiated our Arrangement, he was the one who called us friends when I was too afraid to admit the same, if he had any sort of romantic intentions towards me, he'd have no reason to keep quiet about that, either."
You go too fast for me, Crowley. Aziraphale's own words come back to him suddenly, like an accusatory ghost. And like a ghost, he pales a bit as he remembers them, his lips pressed tightly together.
"L-look, this... why are we even talking about this? The whole reason we came over was because of your relationship. Crowley and I are doing just fine. There's no need to start poking at a perfectly good friendship."
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Date: 2019-10-21 08:36 pm (UTC)And maybe Oscar Wilde would have been better able to talk sense into him than Balthazar seems to be doing. He sighs. "They get frightened too, you know. Fallen or not. Maybe the Fallen are even more frightened, in a sense, than we can be, because they've been burned, figuratively and literally."
"You've not seen it in Lucifer, of course. I'm not sure he'd thank me for commenting, honestly, but for all his power and cleverness and age and all he's seen, he's shockingly sensitive. Maybe not delicate; I have a feeling he's been broken and pulled himself back together so many times it's old hat to him by now, and that's not frailty. I don't know what it is, but it's not frailty. But he's suffered, and I could hurt him terribly if I tried."
He shakes his head. "It's not my business, I suppose, what you and Crowley do or don't do. I just don't want to see you go through what I've gone through. I've loved a lot of other angels, passionately, even romantically. They've always been the ones who left because Heaven wasn't enough. And I wonder sometimes if I could have prevented that, if I'd been more stubborn, more assertive, more forthcoming and less afraid. The entire fate of my world might have unfolded differently, and maybe not for the better, but I'll never know now."
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Date: 2019-10-22 01:55 pm (UTC)It's tempting to disagree. To argue that he's only seen Crowley afraid once, when Satan was about to come to the surface and start his own personal Armageddon, otherwise he saunters and swaggers through life with a confidence that Aziraphale can only dream of. (And once was fortunate enough to replicate.) But, on some level he knows that's not true. Especially when Balthazar so eloquently describes Lucifer's hidden qualities. It gives him pause, makes him look at the other angel in quiet surprise.
This isn't entirely about him, he realizes. The thought is oddly comforting, and he relaxes in his seat a little, drink in hand, his expression clearing.
"I understand, Balthazar. I do. I remember how Crowley sounded when he thought I'd died. It was..." His brows pull together, his lower lip trembling a touch at the memory. "I'll never leave him again. Ever. Maybe that's not how best friends traditionally operate, but that's how it is for us. We're... what's the human phrase? Ride or die? Something like that. You have my word on it."
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Date: 2019-10-28 05:18 pm (UTC)His ego hates that he's lost to a human, of course, and he'd be lying if he claimed he wasn't hurt in a number of complex and multilayered ways, but even before meeting Lucifer at the fair he'd mostly accepted it. It wasn't the right time then, it isn't the right time now, and it was never going to be the right time.
The fault is not in our stars, but in ourselves.
He's finding someone he actually does fit with, now. Even if it's the absolute last angel he'd have expected to fit with, it's there and it feels right. He'd just like to spare both Aziraphale and Crowley some of the harder lessons he's learned, particularly since he's aware he's been lucky, damned lucky, to be caught by a loving devil when he fell from Grace.
"All right," he says with an oddly gentle smile. "I've said my bit. You do that, and keep what I've said in mind, and--however it is you love him, you make sure he knows it."
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Date: 2019-10-29 01:58 am (UTC)His attention returns to Balthazar and that gentle smile. "You're the only angel I know who knows what it's like to love," he confesses. "Not the love that we extend to all of God's creation, but personal love. My Heaven is so cold, Balthazar. Gabriel and the others, they'd never understand what I feel for Crowley, or anyone else I cared about."
His gaze flicks down briefly at his glass, but doesn't feel the need for another drink. "Our worlds are different, but I'm glad that we have that in common."
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Date: 2019-11-04 07:38 pm (UTC)He loves the Host anyway, because they're his family. Sometimes love is the same as pain.
"I think angels are just another kind of monster," he adds. "Setting aside our proximity to the Divine--or maybe because of that. We carry the very breath of Creation within us, and what to we do with it? We kill things. Mortal things, immortal things, one another..." His gaze has gone distant and grim. Haunted.
"I'm over five hundred million years old, Aziraphale. And nothing, not a thing, I've ever done has had half the meaning or given a tenth as much to the world as a five-minute sketch my vessel did with a hangover, before he'd had his morning coffee."
"Don't ask me why we're the exceptions that prove the rule, but it seems we are, you and I. Let me know if you get some insight on what, exactly, to do with that."
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Date: 2019-11-08 03:47 pm (UTC)But his own turmoil pales in comparison to Balthazar's, who has clearly given this much more thought. Maybe because his world is that much bleaker, or maybe because he's had more time to think about things. Either way, it hurts to see his friend like this, and without over-thinking it, he gets up off his chair and walks over to the other angel to put a comforting hand on his shoulder.
"My dear boy, you matter much more than you could possibly know." He gives Balthazar's shoulder a squeeze, his sigh speaking of his own troubled thoughts. "I don't know why we are so different from the rest of the Host. I'd say it's our time among humans, but even before Eden, before the Fall, I felt..." He trails off, thinking back to that time before time technically existed. "I didn't have the words for it, but I wanted a friend. I almost wish that I knew Crowley back then, but I think it would have been too heart-breaking to see him again afterwards. I'm glad that I know him now, as he is. I'd like to think he was like us before the Fall."
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Date: 2019-11-20 09:56 pm (UTC)He smiles up at the other angel, wry with the mutual understanding of grief between them, but warm. "I haven't spent nearly as much time among humans as you have, though. I don't know, maybe every organized system needs a few outliers like us to keep it from being stagnant. Maybe...maybe there's some hope in that."
He's going to have to think about this one, long and hard.
"I always wanted to love and be loved," he says, tilting his head. "In whatever ways were available. Family, friends, lovers. They're all precious."
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Date: 2019-11-21 02:12 pm (UTC)"I think there's a great deal of hope in that. And I think you'll find that hope only grows the more time you spend around humans." He pats Balthazar's shoulder a final time before letting go and returning to his seat, which has somehow moved closer to Balthazar's chair, within arm's reach. Technically a miracle, but the passive kind that comes from an angel who anticipates inanimate objects being there when he needs them.
"I'm very happy to call you my friend," he tells him. "And Crowley is, too. I think it's very exciting for him to know another angel who isn't a sanctimonious blowhard." That's not the phrase that Crowley used, but Aziraphale doesn't like to repeat foul language. "He's, ah... he's not happy about Lucifer's presence in the Nexus. I wouldn't expect him to keep as open a mind as I am."